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No Name
December 18th 07, 04:35 AM
I was intrigued at Oshkosh with Aspen Avionics gyro and hsi steam gauge
replacements. They have a LCD solid-state ADHRS gyro and HSI that fits into
the same slots as the steam gauges. Anybody have any experience with these
instruments? Are they shipping yet? I assume they are using these new ADHRS
and GPS on a chip. What kind of tests have these devices been through?

Thomas Borchert
December 18th 07, 10:00 AM
> Anybody have any experience with these
> instruments? Are they shipping yet?

Have you asked Aspen? Their webpage doesn't list completed certification under
news.

> I assume they are using these new ADHRS
> and GPS on a chip. What kind of tests have these devices been through?

They'll be FAA certified. For me, that will work.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

No Name
December 19th 07, 03:47 PM
I was hoping someone had installed one in their plane and could comment.

"Thomas Borchert" > wrote in message
...
>> Anybody have any experience with these
>> instruments? Are they shipping yet?
>
> Have you asked Aspen? Their webpage doesn't list completed certification
> under
> news.
>
>> I assume they are using these new ADHRS
>> and GPS on a chip. What kind of tests have these devices been through?
>
> They'll be FAA certified. For me, that will work.
>
> --
> Thomas Borchert (EDDH)
>

Newps
December 19th 07, 05:56 PM
Aspen updated the release date of their PFD to the end of the first quarter
of 2008 with shipments to begin in April. See the update letter at


http://www.aspenavionics.com/index.php/products/evolutiontracking/




wrote:

> I was hoping someone had installed one in their plane and could comment.
>
> "Thomas Borchert" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>>Anybody have any experience with these
>>>instruments? Are they shipping yet?
>>
>>Have you asked Aspen? Their webpage doesn't list completed certification
>>under
>>news.
>>
>>
>>>I assume they are using these new ADHRS
>>>and GPS on a chip. What kind of tests have these devices been through?
>>
>>They'll be FAA certified. For me, that will work.
>>
>>--
>>Thomas Borchert (EDDH)
>>
>
>
>

Thomas Borchert
December 20th 07, 08:47 AM
Newps,

> Aspen updated the release date of their PFD to the end of the first quarter
> of 2008 with shipments to begin in April. See the update letter at
>

Ah, ok. So make it OSH 2008...

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

No Name
December 21st 07, 04:40 AM
It's amazing to me that they can put a ADHRS on a chip, but that's what
they're doing. I did some internet searching and pretty much found the chip
(made in South Korea as I recall), but I didn't save the link.

I would be interested to know how the FAA goes about certifying an ADHRS on
a chip. (I think I've got that acronym right.)

"Thomas Borchert" > wrote in message
...
> Newps,
>
>> Aspen updated the release date of their PFD to the end of the first
>> quarter
>> of 2008 with shipments to begin in April. See the update letter at
>>
>
> Ah, ok. So make it OSH 2008...
>
> --
> Thomas Borchert (EDDH)
>

Thomas Borchert
December 21st 07, 10:29 AM
> I would be interested to know how the FAA goes about certifying an ADHRS on
> a chip. (I think I've got that acronym right.)
>

I think they have done that already for the G1000 and the Avidyne Entegra and
the Chelton and...

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Peter Clark
December 21st 07, 11:46 AM
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 11:29:52 +0100, Thomas Borchert
> wrote:

>> I would be interested to know how the FAA goes about certifying an ADHRS on
>> a chip. (I think I've got that acronym right.)
>>
>
>I think they have done that already for the G1000 and the Avidyne Entegra and
>the Chelton and...

The G1000 has an AHRS (Attitude and Heading Reference System) and an
external ADC (Air Data Computer). The Aspen thing seems to have an
ADAHRS (Air Data Attitude Heading Reference System) - the ADC is built
in. Can't speak to the Chelton, but the Entegra seems to have a
full-size ADAHRS
(http://www.avidyne.com/products/entegra_functionality.shtm) - maybe
there's only 1 chip in there with all the rest being the plumbing, but
it seems to be significantly physically larger than the Aspen box.

Peter Clark
December 26th 07, 11:13 AM
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 08:03:10 +0000, Peter >
wrote:

>If you have an autopilot, the old attitude indicator must remain in
>place to provide pitch/roll information to the autopilot. The Aspen
>people are not interested (for the moment) for certifying with any
>autopilot.

Of course that only applies to attitude based autopilots, not
rate-based autipilots, which most of the people here would have (a-la
ones which pull from the turn coordinator - from what I can tell
everything S-Tec, and the KAP140). From what I can tell, in the
market they're looking at, the KFC225 and the like is an exception
rather than the rule.

Thomas Borchert
December 27th 07, 06:04 PM
Peter,

> If you have an autopilot, the old attitude indicator must remain in
> place to provide pitch/roll information to the autopilot.
>

Get an S-TEC and you'll lose both the problem with the AI requirement
and the burnt gyro problem.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

randall g
December 28th 07, 02:46 PM
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:35:19 -0600, > wrote:

>I was intrigued at Oshkosh with Aspen Avionics gyro and hsi steam gauge
>replacements.

Somebody at AOPA thinks this is for real:

Get your glass: AOPA unveils 2008 sweeps airplane
By Ian Twombly

Don't despair if you don't win AOPA's 2007 Catch-A-Cardinal Sweepstakes
airplane. We have a new project under way—a completely refurbished glass
panel-equipped 1976 Piper Archer.

AOPA's 2008 Get Your Glass Sweepstakes airplane will take you to the
forefront of glass technology. We're going to retrofit the venerable,
easy-to-fly, and highly capable Piper Archer with a glass display from
industry newcomer Aspen Avionics, as well as avionics from Garmin,
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Aside from a glass primary flight display and multifunction display, the
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Glass), will also have a brand-new interior and paint job done by Oxford
Aviation to match the glass theme.



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